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Comment on Baptists overwhelmingly oppose gay marriage by David Moyes

David Moyes — Thu, 17 May 2012 05:15:22 +0000

Thank you Rod. Many Baptist pastors oppose gay marriage as I do. I also struggle to be a loving church to a people who are loved by God but want to live contrary to God’s Word. If the Bible doesn’t govern who we are and what we are on about then what’s next? Keep going Rod.

Comment on Six quick thoughts on marriage by Bernie Gesling

Bernie Gesling — Mon, 14 May 2012 20:44:31 +0000

I believe that Rod, Andrew and Clair have missed the point somewhat. The Bible is the fully inspired Word of God which was given to us by revelation as a basis for life and understanding both ourselves, our surroundings and our purpose. The Bible declares in Genesis that in the beginning God made us and that he made us Male and Female. It even repeats itself for emphasis immediately after saying that and says it another way. Male and Female He made them.
It also introduces the fact that God recognised that it was not good for man to be alone and as a result God formed woman from a rib taken out of Adam. If you jump forward to the book of Romans in the New Testament it says because they (those who are ungodly) refused to accept God as the creator He gave them over to homosexuality and other unseemly things. This isn’t just a decision that people can choose to make. There are higher things involved here.
Marriage is a Covenant first between a Man and a Woman. Further than that it is a blood covenant as is indicated when a man marries a virgin and they first have intercourse.
Covenant is about faithfulness and there is something in what Andrew wrote to speak to the Church concerning how we have not discouraged in greater measure the practice of divorce. Jesus said to the pharisees, Moses permitted divorce because of the hardness of your hearts but from the beginning it was not so. Like God each of us as Christians must love the sinner but turn away from the sin. God Himself is recorded as speaking to Caine the first murderer and said “sin is crouching at the door, but you must master it”. In the same way a man is told several times in the book of Proverbs to avert his eyes from that which would tempt him and take him away from God and godly behaviour.
In response to Rod’s point number 4. “The state may make laws that either affirm or deny a faith community’s convictions about marriage and family.”
This is possibly a pragmatic view and one which on the surface we could agree with however in the case of Marriage I personally say NO! based on the Bible once again.
There is no such thing as the so called “same-sex marriage”. It is a contradiction in terms.
That term has been introduced to sanitise and seem to make more acceptable by association with the word marriage something that is anathema to God.
As Christians we have every right to stand up and say NO!
Our natural laws are a reflection of the Biblical law set down by God Himself. The Apostle Paul refers to the law of God as written in the Old Testament as our “school master to bring us to Christ”.

Comment on Baptists overwhelmingly oppose gay marriage by Clair

Clair — Fri, 11 May 2012 00:12:14 +0000

Lisa, most people who know about Laughing Bird Ministries and know Nathan Nettleton also know he doesn’t have any problem clearly identifying who he is: http://laughingbird.net/WhoIsLB.html

Comment on Baptists overwhelmingly oppose gay marriage by Cameron McKelvie

Cameron McKelvie — Thu, 10 May 2012 19:26:07 +0000

In Australia, the church really need to get together as The Church. Return to a foundation based on Genesis. To stop watering it down with compromising. We live in a fallen world, but Jesus came to seek the lost and save them. Personally, I have been called a ‘narrow minded homophobic bigot’ for holding to my Faith. That person whom called me that is a teacher in Victoria. I would love to organise for all Christians in this Nation to band as one and send a strong message to the all Australians that we say No but thouroughly explain why: the act and not the person is evil. It is refreshing to see a large denomination step up and proclaim their voice.

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Comment on Baptists overwhelmingly oppose gay marriage by Lisa

Lisa — Thu, 10 May 2012 11:13:48 +0000

I notice Mr Laughing Bird that you are not courageous enough to put your own name the the above diatribe.